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#2931174 Jul 24, 2010 at 08:32 AM
Sovereign
84 Posts
Fellow guildies,

it's time to consider a rewarding, but demanding decision!

We have been successfully (more or less) running ICC in 10man mode for almost 2 months now, and our ranks are boasting a whole lot of new members lately.

With our latest addition of Luxuran and Thrones (welcome you two ! tongue ) we have hit the required amount of people to consider taking the next step and start our 25man progress.

This sounds awesome, i'm certain, but we need to take a moment and consider the backside of this aswell.

Right now, 10man raids are working because we have a plethora of members willing to do it, so if half the raid from last nite is missing, we can most of the time manage to fill their spots with someone else, seeing as most people are nowadays considering 25man the important "loot-paradise" and therefore don't mind using their weekly save on a single attempt with maybe 2-3 bosses to down.
But what if we are talking 25man ?
Are you guys ready to "offer" your save to go to ICC 25man even if it means you might not get to down more than 2-3 bosses that week?
Will people make up excuses as to why they can't come and then, on a quiet day, secretly use their 25man save on some random PuG instead?

We need your commitment people ... unlike 10man, 25man will fail with a 100% certainty if we don't show the necessary kind of commitment. And i'd rather not have a fail of that kind.

I have created a Poll on the right, every member is kindly asked to cast their vote.
I would apreciate it if you make your vote public too (there's a checkbox to the right of the button you click to vote, if you uncheck it, you will let everyone know what you voted for).
It's not required! If you prefer, you may still vote quietly and anonymously, but it would help to know who's for what and who isn't smile

Voice your opinion ! Let us know if we should finally take the last step and start 25man raids (from there on it's only an increase in difficulty, but planning and management will stay the same tongue ).

Thankful for all your thoughts concerning this topic,

- Hylander
#2931365 Jul 24, 2010 at 09:52 AM
Members
9 Posts
ICC25, even PuG-ed gets you about 4-5 bosses. And if it's a PuG, wouldn't you be less likely to go farther than in the guild? Or should I be worried about this guild. tongue.
#2931860 Jul 24, 2010 at 01:22 PM
Members
7 Posts
What I suggest seeing as you are doing pretty well in ICC 10 man from what I hear, not that i know how many bosses this guild is able to down in ICC 10 man. But since Thrones has Kingslayer. You could attempt to do HC ICC 10 man at the times i am raiding with you guys. If its a challenge you want. Also I don't know your loot system or how many members you have raiding properly. But if you really want to do ICC 25 man, you need committed raid members or it won't work out well. Just my 2 cents. tongue
#2936209 Jul 25, 2010 at 03:19 PM
Sovereign
84 Posts
@ Thrones :

precisely my thoughts.
we will be using DKP for 25man (probably EPDKP, but we're still evaluating the options), we obviously don't use any DKP or other specific "loot-system" for 10man ... 10man loot gets rolled (and usually ends up being DE'd/sold by now xD ).

we almost always have a KS with us, so we're already doing hc lootship ... haven't tried the other bosses in HC yet (we managed plagueworks so far, we're currently progressing through the crimson halls) ...

and, yes i agree ... 25man is only possible with alot of commitment/dedication, which is why i'm actually starting a thread about whether we're ready for it or not tongue